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Dartagnan
#103 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:38:19 PM(UTC)
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French President Signs Gay Marriage Into Law

http://world.time.com/20...s-gay-marriage-into-law/

TO EVERYBODY HIS OWN OPINION BUT THAT GUY WHO KILLED HIMSELF IS A FOOL !!!


No this man who killed himself as a protest agaisnt the gay marriage, is not a fool. He is an honest french citizen who defends his opinion about gay marriage.


He left a letter about his act.




A famous French activist and essayst Dominique Venner who shot himself dead in protest at gay marriage legislation on Tuesday at Paris's Notre Dame Cathedral, left a letter where he claimed to give death to himself in order "to awaken the slumbering consciousness" and to "protest against fate and poisoning of the soul".






In a letter recently published by the French press, Venner wrote:


"I am healthy in body and mind, and I am filled with love for my wife and children. I love life and expect nothing beyond other than the perpetuation of my race and my mind. However, in the evening of this life, in front of huge dangers for my French and European country, I feel the duty to act as long as I have strength. I think I need to sacrifice myself to break the lethargy that overwhelms us. I offer the rest of my life with the intention of protest and foundation. I chose a highly symbolic place, Notre Dame de Paris that I respect and admire, because it was built by the genius of my ancestors in places of earlier worship, which are recalling our immemorial origins.


While so many people are slaves of their lives, my gesture embodies an ethical will. I give death to myself in order to awaken the slumbering consciousness. I protest against fate. I protest against the poisons the soul and against the individual invasive desires that are destroying our identity and anchors, including family, the intimate foundation of our millenary civilization. While I defend the identity of all peoples in their respective homes, I also protest against the crime of replacing of our people.


Since the dominant voice can not get out of these toxic ambiguities, it is the Europeans who must draw conclusions. We do not have now a religious identity that tie us, but we share from Homer a own memory, repository of all the values ​​on which we can rebuild our future rebirth out from the thought of the unlimited, source of all negative modern excesses.


 I apologize in advance to all those who will suffer from my death, and first to my wife, my children and grandchildren, as well as my friends and followers. But once the shock of pain will be faded, I do not doubt that the one and the other will understand the meaning of my gesture and transcend their sorrow to pride. I hope those will work together to last. They will find in my recent writings the foreshadowing and the explanation of my gesture.


For more information, you can contact my editor, Pierre-Guillaume Roux. He was not informed of my decision, but he known me for a long time."


 
франция париж писатель Бернар Люган самоубийство собор Нотр-Дам





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#102 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:54:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: CROUCHING TIGER Go to Quoted Post
French President Signs Gay Marriage Into Law

http://world.time.com/20...s-gay-marriage-into-law/

TO EVERYBODY HIS OWN OPINION BUT THAT GUY WHO KILLED HIMSELF IS A FOOL !!!


I don't think that this man who killed himself near Notre Dame de Paris believed in God because suicide is condemned by the catholic religion. That is why you might be right be saying that he made a foolish act according to the religious point of view. But for himself it was an act of courage. 


So he made a sin, he won't be burried with the presence of a priest. 


According to the theology of the Roman Catholic Church, the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church, Number 2283 states, "We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives." However, the catechism points out that, "Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide." The Catholic Church used to state that suicide was a sin, and that persons committing suicide could not have a Catholic service and burial. However, the Church has since changed this point of view.


Eastern Orthodoxy, on the other hand, has never made any absolute statement about people who commit suicide. There have been those in the history of the Church that have killed themselves rather than be tortured and demoralized by invaders (see Dance of Zalongo). They also feel that perpetrators of suicide are most likely “not in their right minds” and that God will have mercy on them. In any case the Orthodox Christians leave the fate of suicide victims up to God and avoid making judgements.[citation needed]


In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, suicide is viewed as wrong, although the victim may not be considered responsible for the act depending on the circumstances.


Some other denominations of Christianity may not condemn those who commit suicide per se as committing a sin, even if suicide isn't viewed favorably; factors such as motive, character, etc. are believed to be taken into account. One such example is the The New Church.


In early Christian traditions, attitudes to suicide were notably different from today. In the fourth century, after several Christian women had committed suicide to avoid rape, Bishop Augustine declared that they had done "what was right in the sight of God". During the years of Jewish persecution of Christians, many Christians chose to become a martyr by committing suicide. This became so common that the Jewish rulers decided to ban public mourning for all those who died by suicide, and prevent Christian suicide victims from being buried on hallowed ground, in an attempt to stigmatise and discourage the practice.


In more modern times, Henry Pitney Van Dusen, the former president of New York's Union Theological Seminary and a presbyterian minister, signed a pact before committing suicide with his wife, Elizabeth. Both elderly, the Van Dusens believed that their increasing frailties prevented them from living the life they wanted to live, and believed that nursing homes were "virtual tombs" which artificially kept people alive who God may otherwise have allowed to die.[9]


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#104 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:39:53 AM(UTC)
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Far-right French historian, 78-year-old Dominique Venner, commits suicide in Notre Dame in protest against gay marriage

http://www.independent.c...ay-marriage-8625877.html

This kind of BLACK SHIT agitate ppl to vote AGAINST gay ppl...if u are FAR RIGHT HONOR HIS FILTHY MEMORY !!!

All over EUROPE the FASCISTS win at elections with this kind of bullshit !!! REMEMBER THE NAZIS MARCHED WITH

"GOD MITT UNS"(god is with us) on their uniforms!!!


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#105 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:56:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: CROUCHING TIGER Go to Quoted Post
Far-right French historian, 78-year-old Dominique Venner, commits suicide in Notre Dame in protest against gay marriage

http://www.independent.c...ay-marriage-8625877.html

This kind of BLACK SHIT agitate ppl to vote AGAINST gay ppl...if u are FAR RIGHT HONOR HIS FILTHY MEMORY !!!

All over EUROPE the FASCISTS win at elections with this kind of bullshit !!! REMEMBER THE NAZIS MARCHED WITH

"GOD MITT UNS"(god is with us) on their uniforms!!!


Yes but Dominique Venner killed himself, it is forbidden according the religion. So Dominique didn't use the religion's rule to defend his point of view. I think he is disappointed by the religion. He chose the place notre Dame de Paris to attract the medias to his act. It is a well known place. 


We can classified his act as a planned suicide. It is a sin according many religions. 


But it is easier to kill yourself instead of fighting for your rights. 


Why increase the number of suicides?


Our planet is poorly equipped for delight.
One must snatch gladness from the days that are.
In this life
              it's not difficult to die.
To make life
                  is more difficult by far.



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#106 Posted : Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:45:12 AM(UTC)
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Larry King joins Russian news channel RT

http://www.salon.com/201...russian_news_channel_rt/

They call him already a "traitor"...


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#107 Posted : Saturday, June 01, 2013 2:49:34 PM(UTC)
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Dartagnan:  A Free or Democratic country is also a country where you are free not to accept what is accepted in other countries if you think it is not right.  


We are in a Democratic world...


WE DON'T FOLLOW ONE ANOTHER LIKE SHEEP !!!!




Russia not to allow adoptions by same-sex families - official


Russia will not allow the adoptions of children by same-sex families in France or elsewhere, Deputy Russian Prime Minister Olga Golodets told a news briefing in Moscow earlier today.




According to her, this runs counter to “all norms and traditions of the Russian people”.


It is important for Russian children to live in full traditional families.


But the Deputy Prime Minister failed to provide an unambiguous answer to the question about what may happen to the Russian-French agreement on adoptions after France has recognized same-sex marriages. 



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